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What's The Deal With Discussion Lists For Writers? (Part One)

Are they really free? Are they actually variety of thing that would take days of
helpful? scanning newspapers, magazines and the
fabulous opportunity of getting another
Why do writers subscribe to these lists? take from likeminded people around the
world."
Why do people start lists for writers?
"I'm a debut historical romance author,
While there's no definite answers to any or at least I was when I joined the
of those questions, I can share some Tobeez email loop," says Cheré Coen,
opinions of other writers, who have Online features editor for The Advocate
participated in discussion lists, and Online. "Tobeez stands for To Be
links to websites with more information Published. The group began when a few
so you can make your own decision! newly published romance authors began
chatting online and realized there were
First let's start with the basics. An many things new authors needed to know
email discussion list is not the same as and that other new authors could benefit
an ezine, an email newsletter or an from such a network. This list has been
announcement list. my saving grace. I have learned so many
things that only come from going to
A discussion list is different because it conferences, chapter meetings of the
allows you as a subscriber to post your Romance Writers of America (which I'm a
own messages, as well as read and reply member) and from doing a lot of reading
to messages from other subscribers. The in industry magazines, none of which I
ability to interact with other people is have much time or money for. We exchange
the defining feature of email discussion information about promotions,
lists. booksignings, contract negotiations,
agents, editors, press kits, personal
Many such lists exist - some with as few fears and good reviews, among much more.
as 5 subscribers and others with more The list contains members from Australia,
than 500 subscribers. The number of posts New Zealand, Canada and most of the
each day varies just as much depending United States, and because of this we are
upon the list. also able to share information on
research for upcoming novels."
For example, Childrens-Writers List which
is dedicated to the discussion of writing "I'm subscribed to a half dozen lists
(and illustrating) for children, related to books, writing, and
including such topics as creativity, work publishing,'' says Peggy Tibbetts, Author
styles and techniques, marketing and of Carly's Ghost and Rumors of War.
promotion, dealing with rejection, etc. - "Booklocker's online promotion kit and
has more than 500 members and had more "Secrets of Our Success" both recommend
than 1,200 postings last month. discussion lists as a good way to promote
online to a broad audience. What I've
While the Romance Writers Support Group, found to be rather curious in reality is
which was created to discuss romance that there is a surprisng number of list
writing and offer encouragement and subscribers who deeply resent promotional
advice to romance writers, had less than posts by other subscribers, some to the
100 messages posted between its 34 point of calling them spam. As a result
members in the year 2000. lots of posts are generated arguing and
complaining about the propriety of
This is one of the reasons that most promotional posts. In the end, what's
email discussion list hosts offer more aggravating, deleting one promo post
subscribers the option to receive that doesn't interest you or eight to ten
individual emails or a daily digest of posts bickering over it? Seems like a no
all messages. Some hosts also allow brainer to me. I don't understand why
subscribers to read the list only on the someone would subscribe to a list and
web (by logging into the list archives at then complain about promo content related
the host site, subscribers can choose how to the subject matter. In my mind, part
often they read the postings). of the purpose of subscribing is to learn
what's new and what others are doing
You never know what you may learn from online--a means of sharing. If that
others, who share your interests and involves promo posts, then so be it.
goals. By communicating with other Perhaps it's incumbent on the list
writers via discussion lists, you can moderators to clarify for their
potentially find support, advice, ideas subscribers whether promo posts are
and new resources. acceptable. Obviously everyone agrees
that a promo post about a new weight loss
Just as list size and posting frequency program on a publish list is
varies, the content and quality of inappropriate. But as for promo posts
messages are equally diverse depending related to the list topic, there's
upon the other participants and list currently a good deal of ambiguity, even
owners. But the only way you'll find out controversy."
if discussion lists can be beneficial to
you, is by giving them a shot! You have "I began an "Intranet" site rather than a
nothing to lose - most are free! And listserv, as I felt that this would
you're usually not required to post enable people to chime in on their own
messages or respond to others' messages, accord, rather than filling an inbox ..."
if you choose not to. says Julie Selman, Seattle Writergrrl,
Webgrrl, Techwr-L'er, Woman of the
You can just sign up, read postings at Woods... "My husband is an active member
your leisure and then decide whether you of a listserv that has been a real
want to contribute or cancel your community for him for years. These people
subscription! share the same passion, and they are
very, very involved. They will be meeting
Selecting a discussion list that will in the spring for the first time at a
deliver what you want is obviously a conference that they are setting up. I
subjective process. However, you may want know that he and I will be looking
to read some opinions of other writers, forward to it. Drawbacks that we have
who have participated in various lists. both seen is that we feel guilty if we
have not read all of the listserv -- and
So why do writers subscribe to discussion we both subscribe to listservs in digest
lists? form. Cross postings do happen,
especially if you belong to several
"Subscribing to a writers list is the listservs for the same community.
same as shopping for new shoes,'' says Managing them is more time than either of
"Shydove." "It takes trial and error, but us usually have. People on some of the
then you find the right group, the lists are not aware of the "etiquette" of
'write' answers of which you can pick and cut and paste -- or don't know how to
choose at will." sign up or get off, or how the
communication works -- or about propriety
"I chose a diverse group of writers in A ... some things you just don't post to an
Writing Parent as I am a stay at home entire list! Lurkers are an issue -- how
grandmother.'' Shydove added. "New to do you know what you are posting won't
online writing, and still seeking my muse get back at you in some way? Who is
and genre, there are varied questions I listening, anyway? On the more positive
ask that someone is ready to answer. They side, it is a constant source for
have been more than willing to share information and contacts in areas that
their experience with me.'' interest us. They can be deleted, and
often the archives can be visited on some
"I generally subscribe because I want to associated web site. Like the early days
be kept in touch but will not remember to of bulletin boards, I would imagine that
visit as a favourite as mine are so these lists will evolve, and some of the
many,'' says Jennifer Francis, who is issues will "fall away."© Danielle
currently subscribed to a few lists. "I Hollister (2004) is the Publisher of the
am a member of two or three good ones Free Ezine for Writers featuring news,
covering public relations, sponsorship reviews, and continuously updated links
and sometimes the others present to the best resources for writers online
interesting articles and/or links. But like - freelancing & jobs, markets &
convenience is the main issue for me to publishers, literary agents, classes &
be kept in touch. I think it is an contests, and more...
efficient way of being informed of a




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